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obscurite
Tablet PC Thinker
USA
140 Posts
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 Posted - Jan 27 2005 : 11:34:15 AM
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Current T4010 & T4010D, and other Fujitsu owners, tell me the things you love about your tablet, and the things you don't love.
Give me something to think about while I wait. What problems have you had (related to bugs/defects/bad design/Fujitsu support) and what has amazed you?
If you get too emotional, the tissues are in the corner. ;)
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cme
Tablet PC Trainee
33 Posts
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Posted - Jan 27 2005 : 11:51:26 AM
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Hello:
Does yours have the SXGA screen or the VGA screen of 1024x768?
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obscurite
Tablet PC Thinker
USA
140 Posts
My Tablet PCs: T4010 |
Posted - Jan 27 2005 : 12:09:51 PM
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Hi cme,
The only display currently offered on the T4000 series (T4010/T4010D) is this one:
(from fujitsu.com)
12.1" XGA TFT indoor (Transmissive) display with 180° viewing angles |
-Daniel |
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ssroka1010
Tablet PC Trainee
34 Posts
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Posted - Jan 27 2005 : 7:58:40 PM
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Hi,
If anyone has thought on other cards to look at please advise for the below issue. .
The one item on the T4010 that has been a surprise -- hooking up an external monitor. In notebook mode the screens match up tit for tat ie mirror each other. When you go to tablet mode the two screen still mirror each other but...will be out of synch 90 or 180 degrees.When you get your system hook it up to an external monitor and then go to tablet mode and you will see it.The screen is rotationing clockwise the external monitor is rotating counterclockwise. (or vise versa)
Below are some cut and pastes of emails I have had with Portable one and also from suggestions from Jud and Woody when we discussed this earlier in the group here.
Ivan , Portable One
Stan, what you are trying to do will require more than one video card, unfortunately there is no mobile video card that can do multiple viewing perspectives, different resolutions and/or different desktops on an internal and external display, both the internal an external displays will need to be the same. However, you can run your external monitor through the below pc card to video solution, we have lots of customers using it to run different resolutions on the internal and external displays and should work for you as well.
WE looked at Margi Presenter to Go as a possible solution but here's the rub
Ivan,
FYI, Below regarding Margi for displays per web site. Also, web site not showing current Fujitsu models being supported. I might have to talk with them to double check.
"After installing Service Pack 2 on Windows XP, driver does not work?
We are currently not compatible with Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2. We are evaluating our support options and should have a status update posted on our website in a few weeks. In the meantime, please rollback to SP1 "-
While Windows XP Professional supports dual monitor, the Windows XP Home Edition does not. Hence the Display-to-Go will work only on Windows XP Professional Version."
Stan to Ivan , Portable One
Yeap, I agree further investigation is needed. Might just be adding more headache to the situation. A new monitor with an Ergotron 300 or 100 with 360 degree full rotation either direction is sounding better and better for home. Doesn't solve the on the road, business presentation issue though. Note: the ERgotron Neo Flex rotates only 90 degrees and in the wrong direction to correct the problem.)
Do you know anything about Samsung's SynchMaster 173P LCD screen. It is supposed to have a pivot program / pivot function sw --Pivot Pro SW for screen image rotation. I sent them an email but have not heard back yet. (Per Jud suggestion)
Also, per Fujitsu a normal landscape to portrait monitor will not solve the issue.
Otherwise I like the system .
See ya
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obscurite
Tablet PC Thinker
USA
140 Posts
My Tablet PCs: T4010 |
Posted - Jan 27 2005 : 9:30:03 PM
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| Thanks stan, keep us updated on the status of this problem. We appreciate it! :D |
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ssroka1010
Tablet PC Trainee
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Posted - Jan 28 2005 : 07:48:04 AM
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Daniel,
Just a couple of other quirks/thoughts..
When you rotate from notebook to tablet (landscape to Portrait) your desktop gets compressed. Not a big deal but does reduce the desktop area even more than the 12" screen. I am a big user of my desktop so it gets crowed real fast in Portrait.
Another is when in portrait mode, due to the compressed screen when surfing the web or using programs you have to keep adjusting/moving the window content using the slide bars. Not a big deal, but a pain ... less of an issue in landscape mode.
Same thing is true of using SW packages. Fortunately I came from a 12" screen so I have adapted most of my SW that I use frequently to handle the compressed screen.
I find the keyboard a bit cramped. My fat fingers have a tendency to hit 2 keys which at times has me jumping all over the page. Also I keep hitting the dang caps lock when I go for the "a". If you are a great touch typist probably not a problem.
The final issue is more related to SW development than tablet hardware. The ability to utilize ink is somewhat limited depending on the SW program. Some will take ink directly, some you have to convert ink to text or you have to figure a work around. I find with say, a contact mamanger or database program or even Outlook it is easier to attach, say a, "Windows Journal" file to the contact or database entry, write using ink for the notes and attach the file.
The Plus--- faster entry and can use in business meetings etc. Can reattach file to multiple SW programs as long it accepts attachments or links.
Down side, if you use PDA (At least on my Palm) will not be able to access that file on the PDA. (or at least I have not figured out a way)
That's Ok with me (or I should say I can live with that), because my long term objective is to eliminate the PDA or make it just an addressbook.
OneNote looks very promising but is taking me a bit to understand it.
Have fun with it.
See ya
Stan
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obscurite
Tablet PC Thinker
USA
140 Posts
My Tablet PCs: T4010 |
Posted - Jan 28 2005 : 07:56:12 AM
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Thanks for the tips! I've had OneNote and GoBinder running on my desktop so I can try them out. I really love the OneNote interface, but I haven't used it with a pen yet. I'm wondering if I can group a collection of subjects together somehow in these programs (like a 3 subject binder, or a filing cabinet with multiple hanging folders).
Can't wait!!! |
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obscurite
Tablet PC Thinker
USA
140 Posts
My Tablet PCs: T4010 |
Posted - Jan 28 2005 : 09:03:18 AM
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| The 1GB of ram (Corsair) and extra AC adapter arrived today. How useful. ;) |
-Daniel |
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duediligence
Tablet PC Trainee
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Posted - Jan 29 2005 : 09:11:01 AM
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Just received my T4010D last night. Bought preconfigured so I could return if necessary with plans to upgrade from 512mb. But pleasantly surprised so far with how zippy it is. The screen is much better, imho, than the one on a friend's Motion 1400VA. (Indoors -- I tend to daydream too much outdoors to really get anything done.) Negatives so far: there is a hum if the screen brightness is on anything other than maximum brightness. Might get anyway with the noise if the environment were noisy, but annoying sitting here in my house. Also, keyboard not as good as my IBM thinkpad but better than the Mac I used to use -- the pitch feels too shallow. I also have to write harder on the screen than I do normally, but this may be just getting use to writing at the best angle -- I tend to write at extreme angles. I am impressed generally with the writing experience.
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cme
Tablet PC Trainee
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Posted - Jan 29 2005 : 11:39:16 AM
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J.:
Thanks for the report. Is the hum a low, constant sound or something that is higher pitched?
Has anyone else experienced this hum of the screen at reduced brightness?
I am leaning toward buying this model, and the extra feedback is good. |
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duediligence
Tablet PC Trainee
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Posted - Jan 29 2005 : 4:33:33 PM
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I guess I would call it a low, constant sound. The default power settings had the screen at lowest brightness when off the ac adapter so I didn't hear it until this morning, my first chance to play with this fulling charged. I switched it to high, and the sound stopped. I was away from the computer for the day and just now, I brought the brightness down through the f6 function step by step and the hum did not kick in. Maybe the sound is just sometimes? Or maybe just when it starts at the lowest? Don't have a pattern yet. I recall there has been a discussion on this a little while back, that was how I figured out where the sound was coming from, but I couldn't find the thread. I don't remember if everyone had it or if there was a fix. Maybe someone else remembers that thread and can add to this?
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ssroka1010
Tablet PC Trainee
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Posted - Jan 29 2005 : 5:03:39 PM
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J
I agree with you on the keyboard. I came from an IBM thinkpad and also IBM external keyboard. All the experience/learning IMB has gained making typewriters, has spilled over into their keyboards, both on the notebooks and external keyboards. The secretaries of days gone by were pretty demanding.
Enjoy
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ssroka1010
Tablet PC Trainee
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Posted - Jan 29 2005 : 5:18:41 PM
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Daniel,
Regarding onenote. Once you start understanding the concept of onenote I think you will find you can do what you want to do...either have multiple tabs like you would have in a 3 ring notebook with tabs for different subjects and multiple file layers too. Go to Microsoft website and check under onenote there are some tutorials. Personally, Microsoft has done a lousy job of educating the public/users on OneNotes capabilities. They give you the canned demo and that's about it rather than the real capabilities of the program.
Several books that are pretty good intro's if you haven't seen them already: (or if you like the challenge,.. just have at it). Be aware that some of these focus on Onenote for pc users not tablet users --which seems to be ignored are ignored
Sieze the Workday with Tablet PC--good comparison of the different SW plus and minus and increase productivity with Tablet PC
Absolute beginners Guide to Microsoft office One Note 2003
One Note for Windows 2003
One Note 2003 step by step
See ya
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obscurite
Tablet PC Thinker
USA
140 Posts
My Tablet PCs: T4010 |
Posted - Jan 29 2005 : 9:50:32 PM
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I'm a little worried about the screen hum, because I plan to use the tablet in a classroom setting (where I have the only computer) on a regular basis. I should be getting the T4010 this week and I'll give my opinion in the form of a review at that time (or mini reviews).
Stan - thanks for the encouragement, I plan to master OneNote and take a really hard look at GoBinder. The biggest peave with GoBinder (having only used it briefly) is that it doesn't do audio recording, and there's an active thread on the GoBinder support forum about this right now.
When I was first shopping for a tablet, I was impressed by how active the Toshiba (M205/M200) and Motion (M1300/M1400) community was, so I thought I'd be better of with one of those machines. There is so much evangelism going on! Also, there seemed to be a great deal more reviews and blog posts about those manufacturers.
In hindsight, I see that Fujitsu was always well respected for it's slates, but the T4010 is actually a breakthrough product - maybe their most popular convertible ever. I hope the T4010 user community (and Fujitsu community in general) keeps active on this and other forums so we can help each other out!
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duediligence
Tablet PC Trainee
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Posted - Jan 30 2005 : 07:52:11 AM
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Ok, this morning I put my screen on minimum brightness and got no hum. So seems unpredictable. Still having fun exploring and am getting comfortable with the writing on screen experience. The machine is heavier than I would like, but well balanced. I can't imagine I would hold and write on this machine, but writing with the tablet on my lap is very comfortable. Will be experimenting with writing on a desk to see if height of machine is okay. Will report back.
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ssroka1010
Tablet PC Trainee
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Posted - Jan 30 2005 : 09:23:53 AM
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Daniel,
Just a thought on GoBinder. I played with it a bit, but played with the Franklin Covey equavalent a lot more so the comments below are more focused on that program but I believe agilex wrote both programs. I liked their tabs very much, I liked Coveys attempt to match the day planners paper format.
What I did not like was when entering to do's or tasks I was limited to only a one line entry not multiple lines whether in ink or converted text. I also did not like that I could not cut and paste contact information with all the fields included in one shot like contact name, address, phone numbers etc. Have to do multiple cut and pastes. Also there was a great amount of overhead in start up and in searches, I felt. Finally, and this is both good and bad, you are actually in an entirely seperate program independent of the rest of the table pc. Ink/handwriting recognition is their engine not Tablet pc/windows xp for tablet. For the class room with chalk and all could prove to be benefical if it is used in classroom.
All of this might have changed in the last 3 months or there maybe solutions to each problem but I did not find them or get them in a timely fashion.
Regarding Fujitsu, they have been doing slates a long time 10 plus years,more in the business realm rather than consumer and is one of the reason I picked a fujitsu, I don't believe they are going to walk away from their customer base and are preety conservative in upgrading their machines--not on bleeding edge but rather close followship with combining the technology that actually solve business issues.
Have fun
See ya
Stan |
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In anticipation of my T4010 arriving... 
