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MastaJae
Tablet PC Trainee
7 Posts
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 Posted - Jan 27 2005 : 12:11:34 PM
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Hi everyone. I bought a Stylistic 3500 from my friend a couple weeks ago.
Heres what came with it:
Charger & carying case
Wireless Keyboard
USB 4port HUB
USB Mouse
Dynex PCMCIA Network adapter
Dynex external USB CD-RW
Now heres what has become my problem. About a month ago, he downloaded a virus and decided to remove the hard drive and hook it up as a slave to his desktop computer and reformat. So to make a long story short, I can't get windows to install....even after copying my xp pro cd to the hard drive and installing it from there. I am aware of the pen driver issues with XP. I also have a Win98 CD that I haven't tried yet. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
-Justin
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The_Giz
Tablet PC Ponderer
USA
55 Posts
My Tablet PCs: Fujitsu P510's
Fujitsu 3400
Fujitsu 3500 |
Posted - Jan 27 2005 : 12:30:45 PM
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Can you elaborate on what kind of problems you are having? Just saying that it "won't install" doesn't give us too much to work with.
Giz
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MastaJae
Tablet PC Trainee
7 Posts
My Tablet PCs: |
Posted - Jan 27 2005 : 12:39:34 PM
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| I copied my windows XP Pro installation CD to the tablet hard drive while it was in my computer as a slave (making sure the I386 file was present and also the setup file). I then put the hard drive back in the tablet. Started up and got an error message. I tried to get into DOS but there isn't an option for it in the F8 menu. |
Edited by - MastaJae on Jan 27 2005 12:49:04 PM |
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Northern_Rebel
Tablet PC Philosopher
USA
334 Posts
My Tablet PCs: Toshiba 3505, Fujitsu Stylistic ST4110,
Acer C100,
Fujitsu LT-C500,
Fujitsu ST3400S (indoor/outdoor). |
Posted - Jan 27 2005 : 1:14:10 PM
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| Fujitsu uses a proprietary boot record. The hard drive must have fdisk and format ran in the Fujitsu PC. Once you have done this you can put it back in a desktop PC and copy your install files. |
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MastaJae
Tablet PC Trainee
7 Posts
My Tablet PCs: |
Posted - Jan 27 2005 : 4:53:23 PM
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The hard drive in the tablet was removed and hooked up to an IDE cable on a desktop computer and formatted through 'my computer'. So now that the disk is empty, is there any way that I can get this hard drive to work on the tablet again?
I was thinking that I could copy my I386 file and the all the setup junk from my XP cd onto the tablet hard drive, then access it from the command prompt after putting the hard drive back into the tablet. I tried all of that but the command prompt wasn't listed after getting into the F8 screen.
I hope that makes sense this time. :) |
Edited by - MastaJae on Jan 30 2005 4:52:03 PM |
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Jim Artis
Tablet PC Guru
USA
1744 Posts
My Tablet PCs: A challenge is but an opportunity to succeed ~ patient tenacity provides for success |
Posted - Jan 30 2005 : 5:24:12 PM
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MastaJae,
Windows NT based Operating systems [Windows XP] do not boot to a command prompt. You have not said you cannot boot from your external USB CD Drive. If you can, that is your easiest solution.
Ensure your CD is set as a boot device before your HDD. Place your Windows XP Tablet PC Edition CD in the CD Drive and you should be on your way. If you do not have the Tablet PC Edition and only have Windows XP Professional, you will loose TPC functionality. What Product Key do you have? Your Product Key will only work with the edition for which it was issued.
To further advise, let us know how much of this you can accomplish and the edition/Product Key that you have. |
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MastaJae
Tablet PC Trainee
7 Posts
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Posted - Jan 30 2005 : 6:04:22 PM
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Thank you for your reply Jim.
I've tried to use the cd drive upon startup but the tablet won't acknowledge that its there so for me, that isn't an option.
The tablet originally had windows 98, and then upgraded to windows XP. I am aware of how to install windows xp from the command prompt because I've done it before. Its just that I can't get there.
If I don't press F8 right after the fujitsu screen disappears, the screen will flash a couple times and say "NTLDR is missing. Press ctrl alt delete to restart"
The cd key is the one that came with my Windows XP Pro cd. |
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Jim Artis
Tablet PC Guru
USA
1744 Posts
My Tablet PCs: A challenge is but an opportunity to succeed ~ patient tenacity provides for success |
Posted - Jan 30 2005 : 6:13:34 PM
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Exactly, I know what you are seeing. The command prompt you refer to, was it not the Windows 98 Command Prompt?
You may be a candidate for the floppy install of Windows XP for those w/o a CD drive. Here is a link to Microsoft's Floppy Install for Windows XP.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=55820edb-5039-4955-bcb7-4fed408ea73f&DisplayLang;=en
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Edited by - Jim Artis on Jan 30 2005 6:18:13 PM |
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MastaJae
Tablet PC Trainee
7 Posts
My Tablet PCs: |
Posted - Jan 30 2005 : 6:21:26 PM
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It probably was the 98 prompt. I was able to start the computer and then get into that menu before windows booted to get into the prompt. I do have both the windows 98 and xp pro disks and a 2.5-3.5" IDE adapter.
I also don't have a floppy drive. :) |
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Jim Artis
Tablet PC Guru
USA
1744 Posts
My Tablet PCs: A challenge is but an opportunity to succeed ~ patient tenacity provides for success |
Posted - Jan 30 2005 : 6:53:34 PM
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Yes, indeed you can do exactly that with the Windows 98 Startup Options, but not with a Windows NT based operating system [security].
Well unless you have another boot option [SD Card or Flash Drive], you are about out of options. What does Fujitsu give to allow you to install the O/S. Some OEMs require a docking station.
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sid6.8
Tablet PC Ponderer
USA
72 Posts
My Tablet PCs: Fujitsu Stylistic 3400
Barbie(tm) Magnadoodle |
Posted - Jan 30 2005 : 7:25:17 PM
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Mr reb are in some disagreement on this, but since i believe that my experiences are real and not halucinations (unlike Tim Robins in Jacobs ladder), I have developed a way to do what you are trying to do.
the reason that you get boot errors having coppied the WINXP cd to a harddrive, is that the important file(s), NTLDR isn't in the right place on the disk, not in the first X bits, as pointed to by the MBR. making this happen is not a drag-n-drop sort of operation. The fact that the slate is seeing and attempting to boot from the drive is good news.
Check out this other thread, get my how-to and zip file, it is designed around not having a floppy, but having a 40 to 44 pin 2.5" IDE adapter. the one penalty is that it utilizes some aspects of 95/98, such as SYS'ing a drive so the drive it self is like a really big bootable Win98(command line only)/DOS7 floppy. Then you are sort of stuck with a fat32 system drive.
http://www.tabletpcbuzz.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=21376
This how-to is step by step for win2K, but it works right up until the last step for XP, then you need to do some fudging because my runonce.bat file attempts to put things in the winnt directory, not windows as XP uses for a system directory.
Once you get it going, You need to let me know how you resolve that damm WMI error dialog on boot.
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The_Giz
Tablet PC Ponderer
USA
55 Posts
My Tablet PCs: Fujitsu P510's
Fujitsu 3400
Fujitsu 3500 |
Posted - Jan 30 2005 : 7:37:59 PM
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"Then you are sort of stuck with a fat32 system drive."
But you can later covert it to NTFS without losing any data.
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MastaJae
Tablet PC Trainee
7 Posts
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Posted - Jan 30 2005 : 9:58:09 PM
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| After some long thought, I decided to try something different. I took the tablet hard drive and plugged it in to one of my desktop computers and ran it as master. I then booted it up with the windows 98 cd in the drive, formatted it and then installed windows 98. Once that was done, I removed the hard drive and plugged it back into the tablet. It works! So now that I have the non NT based windows installed, I can get into the command prompt and install XP as was done before (another can of worms). Thanks for your time guys, I'll be back to update on the progress. |
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sid6.8
Tablet PC Ponderer
USA
72 Posts
My Tablet PCs: Fujitsu Stylistic 3400
Barbie(tm) Magnadoodle |
Posted - Feb 01 2005 : 5:07:35 PM
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Originally posted by The_Giz
"Then you are sort of stuck with a fat32 system drive."
But you can later covert it to NTFS without losing any data.
Giz
Yeah, 2K/XP give you the one time option to convert to NTFS during the install, or if you have access to the Microsoft NT(2K/XP) Resource Kit you can do the conversion at any later date. I kind of like the way I do it, when all is said and done I have a dual boot system, with the alternate OS as CLI only win 98. You never know when you might want to do a little maintenance without those annoying NT system protecting permissions. |
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The_Giz
Tablet PC Ponderer
USA
55 Posts
My Tablet PCs: Fujitsu P510's
Fujitsu 3400
Fujitsu 3500 |
Posted - Feb 01 2005 : 5:56:57 PM
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The NTFS convert (convert.exe) program is included with XP and you can run it at any time. Converting the primary partition requires a reboot... but it's pretty painless.
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sid6.8
Tablet PC Ponderer
USA
72 Posts
My Tablet PCs: Fujitsu Stylistic 3400
Barbie(tm) Magnadoodle |
Posted - Feb 02 2005 : 2:45:36 PM
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| As you can see, i have been out of desktop support mode for a few years, at one time you needed the resource kit. I also thought WinNT SP4 was the bomb 'till about 2.5 years ago, when I bit the bullet and made 2K my primary operating system. |
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Big problems :) 
